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    February 1, 2013
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when i was young, i heard about global warming and i knew there was huge consequences for this huge problem. i got together with my friends and we found out that you could actually turn oil into batteries for fuel. because many families in my own town couldn't afford to heat their homes, i thought what if we could recycle waste cooking oil to heat the homes of these local families. ♪ who's going to save the world ♪ >> we made a difference. so can you. ♪ who's going to >> we were worried about keeping our kids warm and having hot water. >> i was talking about biodiesel and could not get anywhere with it. she came along and did it, to get restaurants to recycle their grease. >> our goal is to promote the
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use of alternative energy. >> the fact it was coming from kids made it hit home a lot harder. the child shall lead them sort of thing. ♪ >> she set the example for the town and it is great that westerly has a person that we can be very proud of and tell the rest of the country, look what we're doing on the shore. >> if everyone gave a little something back and took a little time out of their day to do something for others, the world would be a better place. good evening, everyone. 10:00 here in the east coast. there is so much happening tonight, some of it life and death, some of it something else entirely. later in the program, the man who says he pretended to be manti te'o's girlfriend, right down to the voice on the phone. he talked to dr. phil mcgraw about why he did it and you'll hear how he did it. and the voice doesn't grab you, the rest of the story will. also tonight, breaking news, new information on the attack targeting americans in turkey.
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a suicide bomber hit the u.s. embassy. we have late details about what the terrorists were aiming at who they are. we begin, though, tonight, with another breaking story, the growing turmoil playing out as we speak on the streets of america's shaky ally egypt. cairo tonight, the presidential palace under attack. protesters throwing rocks, molotov cocktails, other egyptian cities seeing eruptions of violence. people in parts of the country living under a 30-day curfew. pressure apparently building on egypt's government two years after demonstrations toppled the last one. ben wedeman as he was during that uprising, tonight, he joins us from there. friday is usually a big day for protests in the middle east, a day of prayers, people in the mosques and come out and protest. what are you seeing out there tonight? >> reporter: this week it wasn't just friday, it was all week long we had protests and clashes. what we saw, we were outside at the palace, basically the egyptian white house, where initially it was a peaceful demonstration, a mixed crowd of
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christians and muslims, religious and secular, young and old, very peaceful, but when the sun went down, those molotov cocktails were thrown over the wall. we saw young men firing fireworks over the wall as well. and the egyptian police eventually responding with tear gas and water cannons. i think one of the most disturbing images that has come out of there is these pictures broadcast live on egyptian tv of security forces, riot police brutally beating a man who is naked on the ground. the ministry of the interior says they're going to investigate that incident but as we have seen many times before, anderson, the ministry isn't very good at investigating itself. >> is there a sense, i mean, the situation is close to a tipping point, or, i mean, how bad is it? >> reporter: well, this has gone on longer than expected. and what we're seeing is that on
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the one hand, the brotherhood of which mohamed morsi is a member are being fairly restrained and reacting to this as a group. on the other hand, the opposition doesn't seem to have any real influence on what is going on in the street. the street is beginning to lead to this anti-government, anti-morsi movement by itself, completely out of the control of the politicians. we shall see tomorrow. there probably will be renewed clashes outside the palace. and it could very well spread to other cities in egypt. >> in the past we have seen the military, the police just kind of standing around, letting these things play out. is that what they're doing now or are they just not able to stop it? >> reporter: you have to keep in mind that the egyptian security forces are quite large, but the individual recruits are paid the equivalent of $44 a month.
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and they really -- their heart is not in it. and one of the worries at the moment is there is already rumblings within the interior ministry, within the police, that they're not happy defending the muslim brotherhood led government. you have to remember in the days of hosni mubarak, and even before, it was the interior ministry that pursued and persecuted and tortured and jailed the muslim brotherhood. now they find they have to take orders from them. so even though at the moment they are trying to put down these demonstrations, these riots, these clashes, they're not succeeding and we're hearing the soldiers, the recruits are getting increasingly exhausted, tired, demoralized, and their officers are unhappy doing the dirty work of the muslim brotherhood. >> dangerous days. ben wedeman, thank you very much. stay safe. we'll have more on the turmoil shortly and the attack on america's embassy in turkey.
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hostage crisis that is happening now back home in rural alabama going to day four. a little boy, 5 years old, we're told, held captive in a below ground bunker, being held, police say, by this man, 65-year-old vietnam vet named jimmy lee dykes. local authorities released that photo late today, first time we have gotten a look at him. he's said to be a survivalist with anti-government views. the immediate crisis began when authorities say he shot and killed a school bus driver and took the boy hostage. victor blackwell is in midland city, alabama, with late details. victor, you learned today the suspect may have met the bus driver before. what do you know about that? >> reporter: well, that's right, anderson. we know this could come down to the road and the bus. we know, as you said, that jimmy lee dykes, this 65-year-old man, who we see is described as being 6 feet tall, about 170 pounds, a man not well liked in this community, we're told by neighbors that he has a history of shouting at anyone who or anything that crosses on to his property line, even the animals. actually, he was supposed to be
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in court on wednesday for allegedly shooting at a neighbor. the neighbor says that somehow he damaged dykes road and dykes fired shots at him. that was supposed to be on wednesday. but we know that by wednesday, dykes and this kindergartner had already been in this bunker for some time. and actually, i want to show you the bunker, the lay of the land. this is an animation based on a description from a neighbor. you see this white trailer, that's where we're told jimmy lee dykes lives. next to it, a red container used for storage. up in the corner, this is the bunker. we're told it is about 15 by 15, ten to 12 feet high with cinder block steps along the side. and bricks lining the walls. there is no mortar because this thick red alabama clay keeps everything together. and because he was a survivalist, we do not know how long he could stay in this bunker. we're told, the good news here, there is no reason to believe that this boy has been harmed. now, you ask about the relationship between dykes and
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this victim, charles poland. we're told that, again, it comes down to the road and the bus, and the bus ended its route every day at the end of the road that leads up to jimmy lee dykes' property. listen to a friend, robert smith. >> i think he was anti-government, you know, mentality was that he just considered a school bus or anything to deal with the government as a threat. that was infringing on his rights, you know, his property, if a tire got over on his land that was his. >> what kind of a guy was charles poland, the bus driver? >> reporter: well, smith has known him for 20 years. he says when you saw him, he always had a warm cap and a warm smile. and he says that he was first in service to his family and to god, but also he didn't want anyone to be angry with him and he didn't hold a grudge either. >> i understood he took him some eggs and homemade jelly. chuck were the type of guy -- if
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chuck were alive, he's the type of guy he would be praying for that guy and be over trying to help him. he didn't hold nothing against anybody. he was that kind of a guy. >> reporter: again, this was as we're told by his friend, charles poland's effort to try to end this feud with the owner of that road, jimmy lee dykes. we know his funeral will be on sunday and we're told that so many people are expected, it could not be held in a church here in town, that it actually has to be held in a civic center, a few miles away, anderson. >> sounds like a sweet guy. victor, there has been communication between authorities and this guy dykes. how are they communicating? >> reporter: it is a really bizarre setup. we're told that there is a pvc pipe that is more than 30 feet long that goes from the road all the way down into the bunker, and that they speak through this pipe.
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again, we have told -- been told there is no reason to believe the boy has been harmed, but there have not been many more details beyond that. local law enforcement has been keeping all the details very close to the vest, but we know that there is that pipe through which they're communicating. >> victor blackwell, appreciate the update, thank you. we'll check back in if the situation changes. joining me is joshua tucker who lives nearby and former fbi negotiator byron sage. josh, your grandmother lives across the street from jimmy lee dykes. what kind of a guy is he? can you explain what he is like? >> well, he is not the type of typical human being you would see normal. he would always come out late nights, shooting his gun at random hours, working on his bunker at random hours of the night also. >> shooting his gun at random hours? >> yes, sir. >> and i understand -- >> just random hours, odd hours of the night. >> i understand he actually threatened to kill your dog at one point. >> yes, sir, he did. my grandmother lives right in front of him and he had threatened my nana because my dog went in his yard, my dog, we gave it to my grandmother.
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and he threatened to kill our dog. >> were you scared of this guy? >> after that, yes, because it kind of frightened me because he threatened to kill it and then we went over there to talk to him about it and he just got ill about it and just not -- not normal human being. >> you've been up to the house, and i know your aunt knew him, he was at his home when you went to get her. what can you see? what was it like inside? could you tell? >> like, it was all junked up. it was not like a normal human being's house. it was very odd. very cluttered up. and just not even livable for a human consumption. >> did you know that he had this bunker? was that kind of commonly known? >> we did not know at the time, but we kept hearing him at odd hours of the night working on this bunker. >> byron, you're a former hostage negotiator. hearing all of what josh just said, what do you do as a
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negotiator? because it is not like -- i mean, i imagine trying to get into this bunker is a difficult thing, so your options are limited. i know before when we talked a couple of days ago, you said it is all about patience and you hope time is on the side of the negotiators, but what do you make of what is going on? it is day four here. >> it's difficult without having direct insight into the nature of the dialogue between the negotiation team and mr. dykes. but i'm quite confident from what i understand that -- that the team itself is a joint team. it is not just fbi. it is also made up of local, county and state officers, negotiators, that will have -- be able to provide some insight into the type of personality and individual that they're dealing with. >> i would imagine that's particularly important with a guy who, you know, supposedly has anti-government views, whatever that may mean. i assume if you're from the federal government, he's going to be hostile or suspicious, so
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local authorities will probably be better to kind of have that dialogue. >> that's true. you wouldn't want to stress the fact that you're dealing, you know, when they introduce themselves, i'm sure they introduce themselves by name instead of by agency. if he asks, you don't lie to the individual, because that could come back and just totally undercut your credibility, but the fact of the matter is, i'm absolutely confident what they have done is that they have identified a cadre of negotiators who have such a span of experience and possibly fellow vets that can establish a rapport, have a level of understanding that they can start to build on. this is now day four. i am quite certain that they have made significant inroads and trying to establish common areas that they can build upon,
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and at the same time identify issues that are what we call hot button issues, such as encroachment on his property, and other things that he's obviously quite sensitive to. >> and, byron, what happens to, i mean, you have a situation where you have this little boy who has been in this basically room with this guy now for days. in past instances that you've been with, what happens between the hostage taker and the hostage? and we heard about stockholm syndrome, things like that. do you have any insight of what goes on between two people in this kind of a case? >> this is -- this is actually a very positive thing. there is no indication whatsoever that there has been any injury to the child. by this time the 5-year-old is -- has established a bond with this individual. whether intentional or
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unintentional, you can't live, two human beings in that proximity to one another, without beginning to recognize and appreciate characteristics in one another. and that's huge. it is called transference. it is not something you intentionally do. it is something that just humans do when they're in that close proximity to one another for an extended period of time. >> and another reason why they say time is on the side of the negotiators, the longer, i guess, the better without any kind of violence. byron sage, i appreciate your expertise and joshua tucker, thank you so much. i'm sorry you had these experiences. >> no problem. >> thank you, joshua. >> let us know what you think, follow me on twitte twitter @andersoncooper. breaking news on the terrorist attack against americans overseas. late details from fran townsend, exclusive insight about how the bombing may have been planned and we'll talk to former cia
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personnel carriers surrounded the area. reports of security forces burning tents the protesters had set up, beating people in streets, all this taking place after a week of violent protests across the country, already claimed about 50 lives. again, this is taking place two years after the uprising that drove egypt's dictator hosni mubarak from power. elsewhere, in another pillar of the muslim world, turkey, a terrorist attack targeting americans. we got breaking news on that. it happened in a turkish capital ankara, a suicide bomber striking just outside the u.s. embassy there, blowing himself up, at a security checkpoint, killing a turkish guard and himself. wounding several others. what distinguishes this from so many others has to do with who was not involved. this was not the work of jihadist killers. and just moments ago, vital new information emerged from george w. bush homeland security adviser fran townsend, working her sources. our usual disclaimer, she serves on the cia external advisory board. also with us retired cia officer bob baer.
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fran, you got new information about the attack. what is it? >> what we know is that the attack happened at an outer perimeter checkpoint. what we have now learned from law enforcement officials and sources working the investigation is that the outer -- this outer checkpoint happened to be a walkway for embassy employees and their guests. that now makes more sense, anderson. the ambassador acknowledged the woman who has been injured, a journalist, who is a friend of his, was coming to meet him for tea. law enforcement officials, when you ask him about that, say this female journalist enters the perimeter checkpoint, and the man, the suicide bomber comes in behind her, and that's when he detonates his device. he was carrying a bag, a law enforcement official said, they're still trying to determine whether or not the device was on him or in that bag, but that's when it was -- what was detonated. this was an individual, by the way, that was known to both foreign and u.s. intelligence officials for his affiliation with this marxist, leninist group back to the 1970s. >> interesting for folks who haven't been to a lot of embassies overseas, fran, there
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is a gatehouse manned by local security personnel, in this case, turkish personnel, not by u.s. marines, and those are the first people -- that's first wave of security you go through nowadays when you go to an embassy. they search you, there is a metal detector and the like and they figure out why you want to enter and that's what the journalist was doing. you said earlier today as the details were first coming in it sounded like the security fail safes of the embassy may have worked exactly the way they were supposed to. based on what you learned since then, do you still think that's the case? >> i do. tragic that we have the loss of life, but you have outer checkpoints so you hope the further away from the embassy you'll catch an individual who is trying to penetrate with an explosive device. that's exactly what happened here. unfortunately you had turkish security guards who lost their lives. but what didn't happen was that individual wasn't able to get that device inside the embassy, closer to our ambassador. >> and, bob, you visited this embassy before.
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this was no benghazi. this was a major embassy. >> it is well protected. americans have been under attack in turkey for decades. an outer perimeter is meant to screen the visitors. they go through a metal detector. the marines look at that entry with closed circuit tv cameras, see who is coming in and it is a long distance, they call it standoff between there and the actual embassy. and security did work and this is the way embassies are usually constructed. >> fran, as you mentioned, this marxist, leninist terrorist group called dhkpc, could a group like that pull a sophisticated attack like this without outside help? >> i think so, anderson. look, they had -- they pulled off attacks, targeting -- assassinating policemen in turkey, a tourist. they have done these for a long period of time. as i mentioned, going back to the mid-1970s. so they have got the
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organization, but they also, we should remember, just because we had identified the bomber in the group that he's affiliated with, they do have outside affiliations. they do -- they are known to have affiliations inside syria with iranians and so we shouldn't -- the inquiries only just beginning. this may have a longer tale in terms of the story. >> bob, we were talking to w ii wedeman about what is going on in cairo and throughout egypt. there are a lot of potential flashpoints. do you think this embassy attack may be a sign that the dysfunction in syria is spreading? do you think this is related to syria? >> anderson, absolutely. you know, these small leftist parties in turkey, a lot of them ended up in damascus. they have got close connections with syrian intelligence. and right now syria would like to spread the chaos, you know, to let the world know that it is not localized, not a question of just getting rid of bashar al assad, that if, you know, some sort of peace settlement is not reached quickly, it is going to spread to turkey, going to spread to jordan and lebanon.
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and i think the turkish police right now will be looking for a syrian connection. this -- a lot of explosives are coming up into turkey. the turks themselves are very nervous. i just talked to some opposition members. syrian opposition. they said the turks have started to cut off weapons supplies going into syria because the situation is out of control. and it looks like syria will break up. and sending more weapons in the country will have undetermined consequences. >> fran, do you agree this could be linked to syria? >> absolutely, anderson. and i -- my understanding is that's what investigators are looking at now. one of the critical things, you know, now that there has not been a u.s. citizen killed, the fbi won't lead the investigation, they'll work closely, they'll offer bomb technicians and expertise to the turks, and one of the key questions will be to understand what explosive was used, because that's one of the ways as bob can tell you, you'll trace back to a group based on the weaponry that was used. >> right. fran townsend, appreciate you being on. bob baer as well.
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identity of a former high school classmate, diana o'meara, she became the face of the fictional lennay kekua, though she had no idea until a couple of weeks ago. in his first interview since the story broke, tuiasosopo told dr. phil he acted alone and ended up falling in love with manti te'o, the notre dame star linebacker. listen. >> were you in love with him? >> i mean, yeah. if i had pretty much had this escape of lennay from everything else and this was where, you know, my heart had pretty much invested, not just time, but all of my energy went into this, as twisted and as confusing as it may be, yeah, i mean, i cared for this person. i grew feelings. i grew emotions that i sooner or later couldn't control anymore. >> are you gay? >> honestly, if you look at this situation, and look at everything that i've been
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through in this, of course, yeah, you say, i would say, yeah, i am gay. but honestly, i'm so confused. i'm so lost. and i'm just finding me in this whole experience. >> what you know is you did have romantic feelings for another man? >> yes. >> tuiasosopo told dr. phil the hoax was an escape for him. from a painful secret he had hidden for years, seat create was that he said that starting at the age of 12 he was repeatedly molested and raped by splun close to his family. now you may wonder why anyone should believe a guy who already proved he's a liar by engineering the hoax in the first place. dr. phil asked tuiasosopo to prove it was his voice on the voice mails that te'o received allegedly if his girlfriend. tuiasosopo agreed to read the voice mails behind a privacy screen. he said he didn't feel comfortable reading them directly on camera. we'll play that for you now. you'll hear one of the actual voice mail messages that te'o received and then you'll hear tuiasosopo reading them behind the screen in a woman's voice.
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>> hey, babe, i'm just calling to say good night. i love you. i know that you're probably doing homework or you're with with the boys or grubbing, what a fatty. i just want to say i love you and good night. i'll be okay tonight. i'll do my best. yeah. so get your rest and i'll talk to you tomorrow. i love you so much, hon. sweet dreams. >> hey, babe, i'm just calling to say good night and i love you. i know that you're probably doing homework or with the boys or grubbing, what a fatty. but i just want to say i love you. and, good night, and i'll be okay tonight. i'll do my best. yeah, so get your rest and i'll talk to you tomorrow. i love you so much, hon. sweet dreams. >> you can decide if the voice is the same. dr. phil wasn't convinced so he had tuiasosopo read the voice mail from home on a phone provided by a producer who also watched him make the call. listen. >> hey, babe. i'm just calling to say good night, i love you.
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i know that you're probably doing homework or with the boys or grubbing, fatty. i just wanted to say i love you and good night and i'll be okay. i'll be okay tonight. i'll do my best, um, yeah. so get your rest and i'll talk to you tomorrow. i love you so much, hon. sweet dreams. >> to me it sounded like the same voice. dr. phil said the three voice analysts who heard the last recording said that tuiasosopo's voice matched the one in the original voice mail. you can judge for yourself. for manti te'o's perspective, the interview backed up his story tuiasosopo told dr. phil te'o was not part of the hoax in any way other than just being duped by it. tim burke broke the story from deadspin. tim, i got to say, i was fascinated by this interview. and i did not believe that this guy ronaiah could actually do a woman's voice, possibly for so long, on the phone. but you hear it, to me, it sounded identical. what do you think? >> good evening, anderson.
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kudos to dr. phil for, you know, his magisterial use of the television media in building this specter of doubt for days that ronaiah either couldn't or wouldn't do the voice that we heard on those voice mails that were provided by manti te'o, only to spring it on us at the end, that, wow, amazingly he actually could. whether it really is the same voice that you hear is sort of up for debate. dr. phil's analysts say yes. but if you listen, you might hear some things that are significantly different in them. >> you broke the story. you were skeptical of te'o. now you have seen this interview, you heard ronaiah do the voice. do you believe te'o was not involved in the original hoax? >> i certainly think that if you buy, even half of what ronaiah is telling, and that requires a leap of faith, frankly, given how long he's been telling these lies and executing this hoax, you sort of have to assume that
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manti te'o, his involvement was minimal, insofar as at least ronaiah says it was manti who initiated the conversation by adding the lennay kekua character on facebook. other than that, it is tough to say that manti had any sort of active involvement. but that, again, requires you to believe both two -- you have to believe two people who both admitted to lying. >> what surprises you the most about the interview? >> well, certainly the fact that ronaiah claims that manti te'o dumped lennay kekua and actually told her he didn't ever want to talk to her again and that's what sparked ronaiah tuiasosopo to kill off the character. and that they had a conversation about this hours before she allegedly died. that throws a lot of doubt on manti te'o's version of things, especially if you want to believe that he was saying she was the love of his life, et cetera, you know, hours after he dumped her.
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or that a reasonable person could have a normal conversation with someone and then believe that they were sick enough to die of leukemia hours later. all of those things are surprising to me. but intriguing at the same time. >> i mean, it certainly does seem like manti te'o played up his relationship or his feelings for this person in the media for, i guess, for his own benefit. i want to play a clip of ronaiah tuiasosopo apologizing to manti te'o. take a listen. >> i can never express how sorry i am for everything. i know i put you through a lot. i'm just very sorry for everything. not just affecting you and hurting you, but hurting your family. i know the depth of the pain i caused and i pray that you can forgive me. >> he obviously seems to be very confused person about his sexuality, and a whole bunch of things. do you think now this is done, i mean, as far as i'm concerned it seems pretty done, but i'm wondering, you broke this story, you know better than anyone.
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>> well, the first night that we talked, anderson, that wednesday night, i said that as soon as the statements started coming out, our chance at really truly finding the facts and the truth were slipping away. i think that we have come to the end of what both manti te'o and ronaiah tuiasosopo are going to say what happened, and i doubt that we're going to get many more facts out of it because of that. his little apology on camera, that's some more television magic, right? we know ronaiah already apologized in person or at least on the telephone to manti te'o. didn't really need another sort of on camera apology, except to anybody and his family or anybody he hasn't been able to explain his role in this hoax. >> tim burke, thank you again. it is a long, sad, bizarre story. appreciate you being on. thanks, tim. a lot more happening tonight. susan hendricks is here. susan? >> hillary clinton said good-bye today, stepping down as secretary of state, leaving a legacy of 30 years of public service.
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in a farewell speech, she told staffers she's more optimistic today about her world than four years ago. >> so next week i would expect that all of you will be as focused and dedicated for secretary kerry as you have been for me, and that you will continue to serve president obama and our nation with the same level of professionalism and commitment that i have seen first hand. >> she is talking about senator john kerry, sworn in today as the nation's 68th secretary of state. daughter chelsea was there too, tweeting a photo with her mom, the caption reading, thankful i shared her last day as #sos #prouddaughter. former new york city mayor ed koch has died of congestive
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heart failure. after he left office in 1989, mayor koch practiced law and served as a judge on the syndicated show "the people's court." he also appeared in other tv shows as himself and was a newspaper columnist too. ed koch was 88. money news, the dow industrials closing above 14,000 today for the first time since october of 2007. the big gains are linked to strong economic reports. and archaeologists believe they may have found the remains of england's king richard iii in this grave site. he is the last british king to die in battle more than five centuries ago. now, the area is now a parking lot but used to be a franciscan friary. anderson, back to you. >> susan, thanks. super bowl is this weekend. all eyes on new orleans superdome for the big game. the city has a lot to celebrate today. but for a while after hurricane katrina, a lot of folks wondered whether it would be able to bounce back. how one storm victim forced out by katrina tells us about her journey back to the city she calls home. also, the office of a prominent donor to robert menendez raided by the fbi.
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will charges be filed against the australian deejays? who hoaxed the london hospital where the duchess of cambridge was staying with morning sickness earlier. what british prosecutors have decided coming up.
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on sunday, the ravens and 49ers hit the field inside the superdome for the super bowl. the stadium was so badly damaged by katrina, became a symbol of the storm's destruction. what happened inside as the days after served as a symbol of the city's dysfunction. the situation was bad. some doubted the superdome would ever be around to host another super bowl. but much less become the home of a super bowl winning team. now the superdome is a symbol of a new new orleans. for so many who left after katrina in a flood of uncertainty, it is once again somewhere that they're happy to call home. and tonight's "360" follower gary tuchman caught up with one woman who is back to share in
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her city's rebirth. >> i'm very angry. guess what, everybody in america got a mom. but where's mine? that what i want to know today? where is my mother? >> reporter: denise herbert, this is how we first met her, a town hall meeting for displaced people four months after hurricane katrina. her mother ethel was still missing and she and her daughter couldn't get anyone in government to help. >> i'm angry with the world! they can parade around here and talk about mardi gras and what they want to do with new orleans. what about the 3,000 something people missing and what about my mama? i'm sick of these people! i really am sick of these people! >> reporter: days later, the body of ethel herbert was identified in a morgue. her death certificate states, hurricane katrina-related death. in the days and weeks after katrina, there was a strong feeling among many that the superdome, where so much tragedy had occurred, and which had been heavily damaged, would have to be torn down. at the same time, there was the
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likely possibility that the new orleans saints would leave the city. meanwhile, the population of new orleans was plummeting. the city was withering. denise moved to atlanta for more than three years trying to make ends meet. but she dreamed of coming back. just like so many other displaced new orleanians. what did you miss about new orleans when you were gone? >> the food, the culture, the music. and you're here right now, the mardi gras. mardi gras used to be my favorite of all time holidays. >> reporter: she wanted to return to new orleans after the body of her mother was found. however, her son terrell was in a very serious car accident. after he recovered, denise and her two children returned to new orleans, joining tens of thousands of others who have come back. terrell will remain in a wheelchair because of the accident, but is thriving -- ♪ -- as a trumpet player in a jazz ensemble. daughter delan is a school pe teacher who says the major
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turning point for the city is when the hometown saints won the super bowl in 2010. >> it was a rebirth. not just for the team, but for the city. >> reporter: and getting to host the super bowl for the first time since katrina is certainly another turning point for the festive cultural and restaurant city. and would not be likely if people like denise did not come back. >> we still have that same good old i love you spirit. we still have it. katrina didn't take that from us. >> reporter: denise, who works in a new orleans grocery store now, isn't going to the super bowl. but she is one of the reasons 76,000 other people will be going. if someone said we have a condo for you in honolulu where you can live in beverly hills, you have to leave new orleans, would you consider it? >> none of that excites me like new orleans. >> reporter: seven years after katrina, new orleans is not the same city. but it is her city. >> gary tuchman joins us from
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new orleans. you've been to new orleans for super bowls prior to katrina. how does the atmosphere in the city compare today? >> reporter: well, anderson, my most vivid memory of the super bowl in new orleans was in 1986 because i came as a fan to see my hometown chicago bears win their only super bowl. and the atmosphere all weekend was electric. the restaurants, the streets, the hotels were all full. and this weekend we're seeing the exact same thing. and that's very good news. there are still problems in new orleans, but once again, this city is a super bowl city. >> yeah, it certainly is. they know how to deal with huge crowds like this. gary tuchman, appreciate it. gary, thanks very much. the australian shock jocks who prank called the hospital treating kate middleton are off the air for good. should they face criminal charges following the suicide of a nurse that answered the call. we'll tell you what british prosecutors decided coming up. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth.
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donor of senator robert menendez of new jersey. a law enforcement source tells cnn the raid on dr. salomon melgin's office. was sparked in part when a shredding truck was spotted on his property. menendez who is set to become chair of the senate foreign relations committee, has denied allegations melgin helped him obtain the services of prostitutes in the dominican republic. former first dog barney has died. the scottish terrier was 12 and had lymphoma. george bush called him a faithful friend and a fierce armadillo hunter too. anderson, back to you. just ahead, when larry king went on a date with katie couric, the ridiculist is next. good morning, turtle. ♪ my friends are all around me ♪ my friends, they do surround me ♪ ♪ i hope this never ends ♪ and we'll be the best of friends ♪ ♪ all set? all set.
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time now for the ridiculist. tonight we're adding anyone, and i mean anyone who doubts that larry king is a ladies man. that's right, folks. i hope you're ready. because you sure as heck do not need cinemax tonight. you know i love me some larry king, a friend of mine, a former colleague, a great broadcaster. he's a living legend, nobody like him. he's so legendary that the event in question happened decades ago in washington, d.c. i'm referring to a date he went on with, wait for it, katie couric. yeah, that katie couric, who lucky for us recalled the
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experience in vivid detail last night on abc's "jimmy kimmel live". >> i met larry at this restaurant in washington. and what can i say, jimmy, i was wearing a leather skirt, you know? >> yeah, we're just getting started. katie, please, continue. >> so we're having a nice enough time. and so we -- we're driving home, and i see we're going over memorial bridge and that's not the way back to my apartment. so i go, larry, where are we going? he goes, my place. and i was, like, oh, mother of god. >> all right. just stop right there. because this is where i enter the picture. i personally asked larry king about this date years ago. he was on my program, promoting his book and he had a completely different version of events. you write about going out with katie couric a couple of years ago in washington. you say, and i quote, page 127, she invited me back to her apartment, i remember thinking this could be good. this could be good. >> this could be -- >> how did that work out? >> wonderful -- worked out terribly because she had a roommate. ha